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Century initiative

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Have you heard of this? I just learned about it today. The aim of this is to increase our population to 100 million by the year 2100 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_Initiative

I'm all for immigration, but our land or cities can't support that many people. Thoughts?
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stuffradio wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 1:11 pm Have you heard of this? I just learned about it today. The aim of this is to increase our population to 100 million by the year 2100 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_Initiative

I'm all for immigration, but our land or cities can't support that many people. Thoughts?
Never heard of it but those people are morons if they think people are going to be on board with that. Then again there will be massive migration from the mid latitudes in coming years so we'll see how many of them end up here for better or for worse.
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Aiming for 100 million people has perhaps surprisingly been a thing since confederation. The 1868 statistics Canada almanac projected the future population of the country, drawing on data from the 1861 census, forecasting that high birth rates and high immigration would push us past the mark by the 1970s.

The article below was from 2017.

Canada was supposed to have 100 million people by the 1970s
https://macleans.ca/news/canada/canada- ... the-1970s/
They were an optimistic lot at the dawn of the Dominion of Canada. And that was reflected in the pages of the 1868 Year Book and Almanac of Canada, the precursor to the annual year book produced by Statistics Canada today.

Drawing on population data gathered during the 1861 census, the authors believed Canada’s rapid growth at the time would continue unabated. “We may … with some pretension to probability, assume that the rate of progress of the population of all British America will be as rapid for fifty years or more as it has been for the past decade,” they wrote.

The authors then forecast Canada’s population by decade over the coming century. Here’s what their forecast looked like compared to how Canada actually grew:
100-million-Canada.jpg

Clearly the forecast missed its mark. Lower immigration rates and declining birth rates both slowed Canada’s population growth.

Interestingly, the idea of Canada reaching a population of 100 million remains alive, albeit delayed. The Century Initiative, a think tank headed by McKinsey & Co.’s Dominic Barton—who in turn also leads Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s economic advisory council—has been calling for policies to triple Canada’s population over the next 100 years. To that end, the advisory council’s report last fall recommended a 50 per cent jump in the number of immigrants brought into Canada each year. “It’s a big number—to me, it’s more of an aspirational number,” Barton said of the 100 million goal at the time. “It would obviously change the country considerably. It’s a different path … But I don’t think it’s crazy.”

At the very least, the earlier call for a Canada of 100 million people shows the difficulty of forecasting so far into the future. For what it’s worth, Statistics Canada’s current population projection for the year 2063, the furthest out the agency looks, ranges from 40 million (under a low growth scenario) to 63.5 million (a highest growth scenario.) Meanwhile, the United Nations predicts a population of 50 million for Canada in the year 2100.




There are other gems in the 1868 Year Book.

Military
The potential for armed conflict with America was a motivating force for Confederation, and it was on the minds of the Year Book statisticians. They set out to estimate how many troops Canada could muster in the event of war with the U.S., and determined that with a population of 3.9 million, the Dominion could rally a fighting force of 775,000.

As it was, the Year Book estimated the service militia stood at around 150,000, having expanded rapidly to repel the “Fenian marauders.” To put that tally into perspective, Canada’s military currently has 68,000 full-time uniformed troops and another 26,000 reservists.

Employment
Close to 45 per cent of Canada’s workforce at the time were farmers. Today, farmers’ share of the workforce stands at 1.6 per cent. There were also enough clergy back then to warrant a mention in the occupation counts.
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Nigeria will have more people than China by the end of the century...

As for Canada, we had 1 million immigrants last year, but I don't think this will be sustained for three reasons:

1) The world population will start shrinking in 30 years.
2) Canada is 90% crown land, so really we don't have a lot of land to live on. We will be more densely populated than the US within a decade at current growth rates when we understand that only deeded land counts.
3) Net zero and now absolute zero are driving up housing costs such that we are getting harder and harder to afford housing every year. Immigrants are already going back to where they came from in high numbers because housing is not affordable here. Canada's immigration system is built on a bait and switch where they promise big, but actually want these immigrants who are often highly educated to do the dirty low paying jobs.

Also, the price of energy is going to be going dramatically because of government policies around net zero and food will be going up because of the government forcing farmers to grow less food. Canada's economy is projected to grow at the lowest per capita rate of any OECD country over the next 30 years because of these policies.

Also, someone I follow online has threatened to commit suicide this week because she's close to being homeless and would rather be dead than homeless. Also, a friend told me last week that her 25 year old daughter is working three jobs just to afford her $2000/month rent in the Okanagan. People are just not going to want to come to Canada in order
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Glacier wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:30 pm People are just not going to want to come to Canada in order
Nor should they. They keep getting suckered into propaganda saying this is the best place on earth. LOL Yeah, visually due to landscape, but all other living conditions are nearing hell-like for most people.
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Hound wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 7:35 pm Nor should they. They keep getting suckered into propaganda saying this is the best place on earth. LOL Yeah, visually due to landscape, but all other living conditions are nearing hell-like for most people.
Lived in the lower mainland all my live definitely not the greatest place on earth anymore sadly enough. :cry:
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