Covid Pandemic

[SouthSardiswx]

Interesting that the U.K. has scrapped pretty much all restrictions.
Basically saying we need to live with Covid no more masks (only on transit or is that Denmark) or Covid passports. Did anybody hear Covid was 3rd for deaths in Canada in 2021 so my thought is why did it seem like it was the number one killer with all the media attention.

[SouthSardiswx]

Are you hanging in there Kells. so apparently Omni Stealth is next.

[moonshadow0825]

Haha thanks. Still plugging along here but the advil is doing its job. I've definitely had worse illnesses.

if the advil doesn't cut it anymore I read that Midol works well... no joke. granted it was an internet rando but apparently it helps

[PortKells]

Are you hanging in there Kells. so apparently Omni Stealth is next.

Getting there! What's this omni stealth?

[Antares]

https://youtu.be/XjTxirxR9MI

Anyone know where the guillotines, gallows, and other such freedom-ensuring devices are? Because quite a few "leaders" need the treatment, it appears.

[PortKells]

https://youtu.be/XjTxirxR9MI

Anyone know where the guillotines, gallows, and other such freedom-ensuring devices are? Because quite a few "leaders" need the treatment, it appears.

Advocating death for other human beings? Is that where this discussion is heading? Also I don't remember voting for this ragtag band of truckers to form government. Also, why is a party (wexit) that wants to separate from Canada attempting to govern Canada anyways? That is a stated goal after all. To overthrow the parliament and install their own bunch of cronies.

I recall back in the day attending protests to advocate for environmental causes (back when I was naive and thought there was a chance). The response from the centre/right was "go get a job" or "arrest the protesters and throw away the key". It's interesting how the message has changed. Same with the bill C-51 protests...a legitimate authoritarian power grab by Harper's conservatives. What was the general response? "Oh you must have something to hide" or "it's a necessary sacrifice for security" (based on the miniscule threat of terrorism). How about Idle No More? "Go get a job like real Canadians".

Like I say I'm all on board for the right to protest. But I don't see any consistency here. I know the source of these movements would turn on a dime if the protest didn't match their ideology. They would call for imprisonment and for protesters rights and freedoms to be trampled. I'm not calling for that but I'm not going to support their cause when I've seen these contradictions and hypocrisies time and time again. All I see here is partisanship and opportunism.

[Antares]

Advocating death for other human beings? Is that where this discussion is heading? Also I don't remember voting for this ragtag band of truckers to form government. Also, why is a party (wexit) that wants to separate from Canada attempting to govern Canada anyways? That is a stated goal after all. To overthrow the parliament and install their own bunch of cronies.

I recall back in the day attending protests to advocate for environmental causes (back when I was naive and thought there was a chance). The response from the centre/right was "go get a job" or "arrest the protesters and throw away the key". It's interesting how the message has changed. Same with the bill C-51 protests...a legitimate authoritarian power grab by Harper's conservatives. What was the general response? "Oh you must have something to hide" or "it's a necessary sacrifice for security" (based on the miniscule threat of terrorism). How about Idle No More? "Go get a job like real Canadians".

Like I say I'm all on board for the right to protest. But I don't see any consistency here. I know the source of these movements would turn on a dime if the protest didn't match their ideology. They would call for imprisonment and for protesters rights and freedoms to be trampled. I'm not calling for that but I'm not going to support their cause when I've seen these contradictions and hypocrisies time and time again. All I see here is partisanship and opportunism.

Not at the moment. In the future it might be a necessary step to remove authoritarians to ensure a safe and prosperous society.

For the greater good.

[John]

Advocating death for other human beings? Is that where this discussion is heading? Also I don't remember voting for this ragtag band of truckers to form government. Also, why is a party (wexit) that wants to separate from Canada attempting to govern Canada anyways? That is a stated goal after all. To overthrow the parliament and install their own bunch of cronies.

I recall back in the day attending protests to advocate for environmental causes (back when I was naive and thought there was a chance). The response from the centre/right was "go get a job" or "arrest the protesters and throw away the key". It's interesting how the message has changed. Same with the bill C-51 protests...a legitimate authoritarian power grab by Harper's conservatives. What was the general response? "Oh you must have something to hide" or "it's a necessary sacrifice for security" (based on the miniscule threat of terrorism). How about Idle No More? "Go get a job like real Canadians".

Like I say I'm all on board for the right to protest. But I don't see any consistency here. I know the source of these movements would turn on a dime if the protest didn't match their ideology. They would call for imprisonment and for protesters rights and freedoms to be trampled. I'm not calling for that but I'm not going to support their cause when I've seen these contradictions and hypocrisies time and time again. All I see here is partisanship and opportunism.

I don’t think any of the truckers is asking for anyones death they just want freedom and so do I. It’s shame-full how the media has portrayed these people

[Typeing3]

Same with the bill C-51 protests...a legitimate authoritarian power grab by Harper's conservatives. What was the general response? "Oh you must have something to hide" or "it's a necessary sacrifice for security" (based on the miniscule threat of terrorism).

Here's some consistency regarding that: It's the same kind of rhetoric that was peddled by that government back then (fear) that has been deployed by the present government. Unfortunately in its current form today has caused and led to an even bigger problem with an authoritarian power grab going further and further down the rabbit hole featuring lockdown restrictions, mandates, legal segregation, etc. With the majority of the media being on the same page as the gov't, the situation has been exasperated to the point where many hyperpartisan folks have treaded a deeply rooted path into following this Covidian pseudo-religion and are more than happy to accept repeated attacks on rights and freedoms that ideally should be taken for granted in a liberal democracy.

[Antares]

I don’t think any of the truckers is asking for anyones death they just want freedom and so do I. It’s shame-full how the media has portrayed these people

Yep, first step is peaceful protest. As they are doing.

The future is quite a bit more uncertain. Only time will tell.

[Typeing3]

I don’t think any of the truckers is asking for anyones death they just want freedom and so do I. It’s shame-full how the media has portrayed these people

You can only push people so far until they eventually buckle. That's what I see happening here, and it will actually work to the gov't and media's benefit since they can justify their mantra of vilification and a potentially harsh physical response by the police even if it's only a few people in these freedom groups who start acting up or are found to also be linked to some dangerous group. I alluded to something like this happening in an earlier post a while back.

[Antares]

You can only push people so far until they eventually buckle. That's what I see happening here, and it will actually work to the gov't and media's benefit since they can justify their mantra of vilification and a potentially harsh physical response by the police even if it's only a few people in these freedom groups who start acting up or are found to also be linked to some dangerous group. I alluded to something like this happening in an earlier post a while back.

It will most likely be paid instigators who are violent.

100% of the actual convoy won't be instigating anything.

[PortKells]

It will most likely be paid instigators who are violent.

100% of the actual convoy won't be instigating anything.

That's quite the guarantee and suggested conspiracy. I'm assuming you have hard evidence?

[Typeing3]

It will most likely be paid instigators who are violent.

100% of the actual convoy won't be instigating anything.

Agents Provocateurs.

Classic tactic. Since PK highlighted consistency I'll give a recent example of that happening on the "other side": I recall some of the violence/instigating rioters associated with the whole BLM situation back in summer 2020 eventually being exposed as undercover police officers.

[PortKells]

I don’t think any of the truckers is asking for anyones death they just want freedom and so do I. It’s shame-full how the media has portrayed these people

Convoyers have suggested civil war and use of weapons, so let me correct you on that. But my original reply was to Antares' guillotine suggestion which is right there for all to see.