Covid Pandemic

[SouthSardiswx]

Good analysis and discussion.
https://youtu.be/YlcgtA82RvM
https://youtu.be/8YIhSOL_23A

Yah Rogan is a beast at interviews.

[Glacier]

Interesting, no need for mandatory vaccines for climate conferences...

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-mu ... e-to-covid

[PortKells]

Interesting, no need for mandatory vaccines for climate conferences...

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-mu ... e-to-covid

Climate conferences should be virtual anyways if they want to lead by examples. This world is run by dumbasses.

[PortKells]

Yah Rogan is a beast at interviews.

There's still no scientific proof that ivermectin works on covid, and most people can't afford the human version which is why people were going out and buying up all the horse stuff. IMO Joe Rogan is an elitist now. ( "I can afford the human stuff") well lots of your listeners can't! The vaccines are free, safe and effective and selling ivermectin as an alternative is not a great idea. This guy has zero medical training and people trust his opinions.

[Glacier]

Ivermectin is dirt cheap, and works wonders to combats river blindness, but there's no evidence it works for Covid.

Here is a really good article breaking down the Joe Rogan interview with Dr. Gupta. https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/10/ ... -revealed/

But National Review is a conservative source, so to provide balance, here left winger breaking down a segment of the interview. He makes some good points but seems to be too friendly with Ivermectin.

https://youtu.be/kCO8bRAaXjU

[Typeing3]

This guy has zero medical training and people trust his opinions.

Don't think he was actively trying to convince people to take ivermectin. In that segment of the podcast, he was (rightfully) pressing Dr. Gupta on the CNN coverage regarding him taking ivermectin and asking why they would chose to propagate misinformation and be so gleeful about it.

At the end of the day, it really highlights the point as to why many people may be turned off from traditional media these days. Quite ironic when people claim that Joe Rogan is elitist but completely ignore the role of traditional large corporate media firms, who have huge power to have real impacts on society as a whole. Even if the information that they propagate is false, lacking context or suited to fit the agenda of their donors.

[PortKells]

Don't think he was actively trying to convince people to take ivermectin. In that segment of the podcast, he was (rightfully) pressing Dr. Gupta on the CNN coverage regarding him taking ivermectin and asking why they would chose to propagate misinformation and be so gleeful about it.

At the end of the day, it really highlights the point as to why many people may be turned off from traditional media these days. Quite ironic when people claim that Joe Rogan is elitist but completely ignore the role of traditional large corporate media firms, who have huge power to have real impacts on society as a whole. Even if the information that they propagate is false, lacking context or suited to fit the agenda of their donors.

In 2021 Joe is mainstream. His podcast is the biggest one. Has he endorsed ivermectin? When he got covid he went online and outlined his treatment plan including ivermectin. In today's world, that is an endorsement. If we are going to go on about vaccines being unproven, I don't think you can credibly tout this other cure before it's been fully studied. Especially with people searching for any reason they can find to avoid the shot. Unfortunately, many of these people elected for the horse version. in fact they bought it all up and some horses actually couldn't get their medicine!

If you are referring to me in the second part (you can call me out by name, I won't be offended) I've never ignored the harm of these massive media corporations. I believe they should be broken up. That includes maybe the worst one, Fox.

What I have done is resisted the notion that anyone who opposes them is automatically correct by way of opposition. That includes say, trump, and anyone who plays the anti MSM identity politics game to score points. This is as harmful as MSM itself in my opinion. "CNN says Biden won? Must mean trump won!" And so on.

I also resist the notion that someone like Gupta loses credibility solely based on his affiliation with CNN. IMO He comes off as a caring and knowledgeable man that wants to help. Maybe he has to compromise and join up with an evil giant media behemoth to get his message out. It doesn't sound like he was the "horse de wormer" guy so why is he taking all this heat for it? Watch Sanjay Gupta as a guest on the late Show, he is honestly a good guy and not some rich man's puppet.

[Typeing3]

If you are referring to me in the second part (you can call me out by name, I won't be offended) I've never ignored the harm of these massive media corporations. I believe they should be broken up. That includes maybe the worst one, Fox.

What I have done is resisted the notion that anyone who opposes them is automatically correct by way of opposition. That includes say, trump, and anyone who plays the anti MSM identity politics game to score points. This is as harmful as MSM itself in my opinion. "CNN says Biden won? Must mean trump won!" And so on.

100% agree with this.

I also resist the notion that someone like Gupta loses credibility solely based on his affiliation with CNN. IMO He comes off as a caring and knowledgeable man that wants to help. Maybe he has to compromise and join up with an evil giant media behemoth to get his message out. It doesn't sound like he was the "horse de wormer" guy so why is he taking all this heat for it? Watch Sanjay Gupta as a guest on the late Show, he is honestly a good guy and not some rich man's puppet.

Also don't think Gupta should be taking all the heat on this issue. The problem is obviously larger than him and important questions should be asked, though I doubt anything will change.

[SouthSardiswx]

Trudumb was in Kamloops today it was a photo op. what a joke no promises made as in when.

[Typeing3]

Trudumb was in Kamloops today it was a photo op. what a joke no promises made as in when.

That's a good one.

[Glacier]

I've had a really bad cold this week. I'm starting to feel better now but my taste buds are totally messed up. Coffee tastes so bitter even if I add tonnes of cream and sugar. One sip of beer, and I feel like I could never stomach the taste of beer again.

Could this be covid? My wife and I got sick at the same time and were both about the same sick, but she isn't vaxxed but I am.

I though for sure it was just a cold because our fully vaxxed renter gave it to our youngest child a couple weeks ago (she works at a daycare), but not so sure anymore. Maybe I should get tested.

[SouthSardiswx]

I've had a really bad cold this week. I'm starting to feel better now but my taste buds are totally messed up. Coffee tastes so bitter even if I add tonnes of cream and sugar. One sip of beer, and I feel like I could never stomach the taste of beer again.

Could this be covid? My wife and I got sick at the same time and were both about the same sick, but she isn't vaxxed but I am.

I though for sure it was just a cold because our fully vaxxed renter gave it to our youngest child a couple weeks ago (she works at a daycare), but not so sure anymore. Maybe I should get tested.

Probably a good idea Glace, symptoms sound like it.
Then again l'm not Dr. Henry, chances are if you get tested and it's negative they'll include it in the Covid numbers just to skew the numbers, fear mongering

[PortKells]

Probably a good idea Glace, symptoms sound like it.
Then again l'm not Dr. Henry, chances are if you get tested and it's negative they'll include it in the Covid numbers just to skew the numbers, fear mongering

That itself is fear mongering sardine. We need to calm down with the conspiracies. Public health officials are just as if not more tired of this as you are.

Glacier that sounds like what I had a week ago in fact our whole class caught it. Some people got tested and they all came back negative.

[SouthSardiswx]

That itself is fear mongering sardine. We need to calm down with the conspiracies. Public health officials are just as if not more tired of this as you are.

Glacier that sounds like what I had a week ago in fact our whole class caught it. Some people got tested and they all came back negative.

Yeah l know Kells, heard on the news Delta plus is starting up in the U.K. and Europe l believe.

[SouthSardiswx]

That itself is fear mongering sardine. We need to calm down with the conspiracies. Public health officials are just as if not more tired of this as you are.

Glacier that sounds like what I had a week ago in fact our whole class caught it. Some people got tested and they all came back negative.

Geesh hope Glace is o.k. he hasn't posted since he posted his symptoms.