December 2020 Forecasts and Discussions

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Re: December 2020 Forecasts and Discussions

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Here are the three different pictures at hour 240. to my untrained eye, these are not terrible. It looks like the GFS is the best for getting a brief shot of cold marine air, the CMC has an absolute beauty of a ridge forming in the NPac and the Euro is somewhere in between. The GFS is lacking that ridge, is that what you would call a cut off low in the North Pacific? And is that what would likely ruin our chances of dislodging that cold pile and having it wander down this way?
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Re: December 2020 Forecasts and Discussions

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Good homework PortKells..aren't those maps pretty Nito? :wave: :wave:
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hawk2 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:54 am Good homework PortKells..aren't those maps pretty Nito? :wave: :wave:
It could probably go either way. The -PNA and +EPO on the EPS just has to verify and get a little more amplified and were in business. Knowing our luck here in the PNW, it'll probably find some way to go Nito.
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wetcoast91 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:12 am GEM is having none of it. Gives us a week of mild rain including a 6 day AR event Wed through Mon followed by what appears to be the first arctic blast of the season being primed over the West Coast.

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Definite flooding.
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GEM is insane. Thankfully, it often shows extreme solutions that don't end up verifying. But even if you have the totals of rain shown by both the Global model and Ensembles, its still a significant AR event.
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PortKells wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:18 am Here are the three different pictures at hour 240. to my untrained eye, these are not terrible. It looks like the GFS is the best for getting a brief shot of cold marine air, the CMC has an absolute beauty of a ridge forming in the NPac and the Euro is somewhere in between. The GFS is lacking that ridge, is that what you would call a cut off low in the North Pacific? And is that what would likely ruin our chances of dislodging that cold pile and having it wander down this way?

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If you want snow and cold. ECMWF is not what one should root for. This GOA trough would merge with energy near the tropics propping a REX block over the west coast or AR event.
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wetcoast91 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:22 pm If you want snow and cold. ECMWF is not what one should root for. This GOA trough would merge with energy near the tropics propping a REX block over the west coast or AR event.
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wetcoast91 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:12 am GEM is having none of it. Gives us a week of mild rain including a 6 day AR event Wed through Mon followed by what appears to be the first arctic blast of the season being primed over the West Coast.

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Definite flooding.
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Arctic blasts are usually preceded by AR events or prolonged wet spells. Progression is probably rushed on the GEM though.

We'll see but I think we will be waiting till closer to late month for arctic air. Fringe snows before are a definite possibility though.
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GEM is absolutely insane with 4 significant AR events this upcoming week. Here's the meteogram for Abbotsford.
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18Z GFS goes chilly and dry after Tues with modified arctic air seeping into the region. Perhaps some spotty flurries Thurs-Fri.

Major differences between all models after 84 HR right now. Not sure why it's diverging so much...
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Maybe those volcanic eruptions are actually messing with everything?
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wetcoast91 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:17 pm 18Z GFS goes chilly and dry after Tues with modified arctic air seeping into the region. Perhaps some spotty flurries Thurs-Fri.

Major differences between all models after 84 HR right now. Not sure why it's diverging so mucu...
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Typeing3 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:20 pm 18z ensembles:
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