July 2021 Forecasts And Discussions

[Antares]

Bring the Lambdalambda's in Ms. Creekside

Lambda is a scary word.

I think sigma is next.

[Bluefudge]

The truly annoying part is that one station will be 4° hotter than the other as is the case with Revelstoke even though both weather stations are within 20 ft of each other. At least with Lytton the difference was only two degrees, and one degree on the very hottest day.

This really calls into question the reliability of the thermometers.

The reason there are two weather stations is that Environment Canada turned over control of airport weather stations true NAV Canada about a decade ago. But it seems like Nav Canada doesn't calibrate or maintain the station's properly so Environment Canada started up their own weather stations at the same place in the same compound.

This includes Kamloops, Lytton, Revelstoke, Prince George, Cranbrook, Fort Nelson, Smithers, and Vancouver.

In the case of Clinton NAV Canada installed their own weather station up higher on the plateau, and in the case of Kelowna Environment Canada established a station at UBC which is up hill from the airport.

Some places only have a NAV Canada station like Williams Lake and other places only have a an environment Canada station like Lillooet.

It really seems like a stupid idea and a waste of money to have redundant stations all over the place. Environment Canada has had a lot of cuts over the years and a lot of weather stations closed down, for example, the environment Canada station here in Vernon closed down in 1995. At one time forestry stations were Environment Canada stations so they would be in the database but with the closure of so many Forest service offices in the 80s and 90s those also closed. So now a lot of towns have automated forestry stations like Valmount but no official Environment Canada stations or any NAV Canada stations.

These agencies should all be talking to each other and have official stations such that we can better monitor the climate. They claim that climate change is a serious problem but they don't seem to actually believe it with their actions because they don't put the effort into monitoring climate change so that we can better understand it and fully know the serious impacts that it brings.

Oh, very interesting. Thanks for that!

[stuffradio]

La Nina watch issued for this fall. Can this winter be better than last? We barely got any snow in the lowlands last winter!

[Rubus_Leucodermis]

La Nina watch issued for this fall. Can this winter be better than last? We barely got any snow in the lowlands last winter!

Indeed there is:
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/ ... disc.shtml

Metro Vancouver was in a Maxwell Smart situation last February: missed by that much!

[Rubus_Leucodermis]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1413 ... 47552.html

[AbbyJr]

https://twitter.com/NWSCPC/status/14131 ... 08225?s=19

[Bonovox]

I was under the impression that we do pretty well in 2nd year Nina's, but I could be imagining that. Typing man, Monty or Abbywx might have a better idea.

[Roberts Creeker]

La Nina watch issued for this fall. Can this winter be better than last? We barely got any snow in the lowlands last winter!

I'm not sure I want another La Nina after last winter...worse than normal and a huge disappointment after all the hype.

[Roberts Creeker]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1413 ... 47552.html

Really interesting read, thanks for sharing!

[AbbyJr]

I was under the impression that we do pretty well in 2nd year Nina's, but I could be imagining that. Typing man, Monty or Abbywx might have a better idea.

I don't know if we do better with 2nd year Nina's historically. However, the 2007/2008 strong Nina was followed by a weak Nina in 2008/2009 and we all know how the 2008/2009 winter turned out.

[Roberts Creeker]

I didn't see this posted in this thread yet:

Results are in for the heatwave contest!!! A huge thank you to Bonovox for running and totaling the contest, they're always fun and...

Congratulations to Bonovox for being closest to the actual temperature.

I was only 50 degrees different over 12 readings, which is better than EC at 52 and TWN 55, so pretty happy with that.

[Hound]

6.0 Earthquake in California today. Quite significant.

[SouthSardiswx]

Lambda is a scary word.

I think sigma is next.

Well the thing is Ant man like all flu viruses we are going to see many variants of Covid over the years to come.
We'll just have to adapt to it with possible booster shots l'm sure.

[SouthSardiswx]

6.0 Earthquake in California today. Quite significant.

close to the Nevada border far enough away from any major metropolitan city.

[SouthSardiswx]

I don't know if we do better with 2nd year Nina's historically. However, the 2007/2008 strong Nina was followed by a weak Nina in 2008/2009 and we all know how the 2008/2009 winter turned out.

How strong this time? l'm not sold it will give us a colder/snowier winter.
I'm kinfa guy shy just preparing for another dud.