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Rubus_Leucodermis wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 12:22 am Apparently some here want me to believe that the CBC was balls-to-the-wall in favour of Poilievre until a few months ago (because their poll tracker showed him waaaaay ahead), then went balls-to-the-wall in favour of the Liberals.



Like it or not, all major polls now favour the Liberals. All of them.



Sure, it’s possible to drag up a few outliers, but that’s just selection bias at play. I prefer to be reality-based. I wasn’t going around trying to cherry-pick polls when PP was ahead.

You don’t have to personally like it, it’s just the facts. The polls don’t look good for PP right now.
It's also possible that the polls were wrong when it showed PP winning over 200 seats in the same way they are wrong showing the Liberals winning close to 200 seats. The final results may end up being a lot closer than the polls suggest. No guarantees but it's the vote that matters, not the polls.
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It's interesting how BC and Quebec are the only provinces that are showing increased conservative support from last election.
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AbbyJr wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 12:35 pm It's also possible that the polls were wrong when it showed PP winning over 200 seats in the same way they are wrong showing the Liberals winning close to 200 seats. The final results may end up being a lot closer than the polls suggest. No guarantees but it's the vote that matters, not the polls.
I suppose, although it’s a little hard for me to fathom how they could so quickly lurch from over-representing Conservative-leaning voters to over-representing Liberal-leaning ones. In other words, I think the recent trend towards the Liberals is real and not illusory.
It's called clown range for a reason.
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I was just thinking, and maybe someone can correct me, but in 2015 when rookie young whipper snapper Trudeau ran against Harper, weren't the conservatives ahead in the polls leading up to the vote? I think I remember being shocked that nice hair Justin won a majority.
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Rubus_Leucodermis wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 5:19 pm I suppose, although it’s a little hard for me to fathom how they could so quickly lurch from over-representing Conservative-leaning voters to over-representing Liberal-leaning ones. In other words, I think the recent trend towards the Liberals is real and not illusory.
What I find even harder to fathom is why anybody would want to reelect the Liberals giving them 14 years in power. Makes no sense to me. :? :?
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Not only is Carney stealing conservatives ideas, but his supporters also stealing conservative signs in Carney's riding ,lol. What are they afraid of ?

Conservative candidate for Nepean says hundreds of election signs missing
Barbara Bal, who is running against Mark Carney, also alleged the wooden stakes from her election signs were reused on the Liberal leader's signs
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Mark Carney and the left seem to be banking on winning this election by making it all about Trump. Rather than choosing the best candidate to rebuild our country from the past 10 years of Liberal damage, they are trying to convince Canadians that Trump is the bigger threat and Carney is the best option to stand up to him. Now while it is true that Trump's tariff threat on our economy is real and can't be ignored, it's insane to me that so many on the left seem to think Carney is the best choice given that Trump has already stated that he would rather work with the Liberals. Do people not realize that Trump views the Liberals as weak and that's why he would rather work with them? As I've said before, it's like nominating the weakest leader to stand up to the bully. Makes no sense to me whatsoever. Not to mention the fact that the Liberals have no realistic plan to fix our economy and will most likely make it worse rendering us even more vulnerable to Trump's trade war. But hey, at least Mark Carney has a plan to ensure the financial stability of the CBC. He's pledging 150 million to fix the economic damage that has been done to our beloved news network. Great! :roll: :roll:

Source: https://x.com/MarkJCarney/status/1910094918791348459

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AbbyJr wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 6:05 pm What I find even harder to fathom is why anybody would want to reelect the Liberals giving them 14 years in power. Makes no sense to me. :? :?
Because PP strikes many as a Trump mini-me? I mean, he is (or until quite recently, was) playing some very similar right-wing populist cards to what Trump is playing. Now, if you're going to say that PP is not DJT, I agree, but still, those are the campaign tactics he used. Trump won, proved himself to be as crazy as his critics said he was, and those tactics went from being politically savvy to a political liability.
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AbbyJr wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:43 pm Mark Carney and the left seem to be banking on winning this election by making it all about Trump. Rather than choosing the best candidate to rebuild our country from the past 10 years of Liberal damage, they are trying to convince Canadians that Trump is the bigger threat and Carney is the best option to stand up to him. Now while it is true that Trump's tariff threat on our economy is real and can't be ignored, it's insane to me that so many on the left seem to think Carney is the best choice given that Trump has already stated that he would rather work with the Liberals. Do people not realize that Trump views the Liberals as weak and that's why he would rather work with them? As I've said before, it's like nominating the weakest leader to stand up to the bully. Makes no sense to me whatsoever. Not to mention the fact that the Liberals have no realistic plan to fix our economy and will most likely make it worse rendering us even more vulnerable to Trump's trade war. But hey, at least Mark Carney has a plan to ensure the financial stability of the CBC. He's pledging 150 million to fix the economic damage that has been done to our beloved news network. Great! :roll: :roll:

Source: https://x.com/MarkJCarney/status/1910094918791348459


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And it basically is all about Trump. Some of us saw it coming months ago (it wasn’t terribly hard).

https://blackcap.name/blog/new/?p=6506

I don’t see that changing. Maybe if Trump stopped being an agent of chaos, stat. Good luck with that one!

(Other option is if some really sordid dirt comes out on Carney, then it could easily become all about that dirt.)
It's called clown range for a reason.
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AbbyJr wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:43 pm Mark Carney and the left seem to be banking on winning this election by making it all about Trump. Rather than choosing the best candidate to rebuild our country from the past 10 years of Liberal damage, they are trying to convince Canadians that Trump is the bigger threat and Carney is the best option to stand up to him. Now while it is true that Trump's tariff threat on our economy is real and can't be ignored, it's insane to me that so many on the left seem to think Carney is the best choice given that Trump has already stated that he would rather work with the Liberals. Do people not realize that Trump views the Liberals as weak and that's why he would rather work with them? As I've said before, it's like nominating the weakest leader to stand up to the bully. Makes no sense to me whatsoever. Not to mention the fact that the Liberals have no realistic plan to fix our economy and will most likely make it worse rendering us even more vulnerable to Trump's trade war. But hey, at least Mark Carney has a plan to ensure the financial stability of the CBC. He's pledging 150 million to fix the economic damage that has been done to our beloved news network. Great! :roll: :roll:
Canada now lumped with China as the only two countries to retaliate, while 75 other countries are willing to negotiate. Does that make Carney look smart or stupid? Anyways, now that Trump has taken the tariff card off the table for the duration of the election campaign, the liberals will now have to scramble and pivot, probably steal more Conservatives policies. Repairing the economy jobs, affordability, crime and safety, taxes, government spending, and immigration should be the deciding factors for most.

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Forrest Gump wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 11:42 pm Canada now lumped with China as the only two countries to retaliate, while 75 other countries are willing to negotiate. Does that make Carney look smart or stupid? Anyways, now that Trump has taken the tariff card off the table for the duration of the election campaign, the liberals will now have to scramble and pivot, probably steal more Conservatives policies. Repairing the economy jobs, affordability, crime and safety, taxes, government spending, and immigration should be the deciding factors for most.

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Only for those who take Trump at his word.

I expect Trump to continue doing whatever the whims of his inflated ego lead him to do, and thus continue to act as an agent of global chaos.
It's called clown range for a reason.
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The problem I have with Mark Carney is his double talk. It's hard to believe with everything he has supposedly said in the past about his convictions that he is suddenly turning a blind eye to them. He campaigns on conventional energy like oil and pipelines but he is very much a net zero type of person. He also can't give clear answers on tax dodging and Brook field.
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Brookfield buys American pipelines but Carney says he won't repeal the "no more pipelines" bill in Canada. hmmm.
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