Covid Pandemic

[SouthSardiswx]

I've also been trying to eat healthy , dark chocolate and honey doughnuts.

Don't give Jr. man any good ideas skipper Gumps.

[AbbyJr]

Title: LILLEY: Western's vaccine mandate is based on fear, not science
Author: Brian Lilley
Date: August 23, 2022
Source: https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... ot-science

The science appears to be different at the University of Western Ontario.

Western, one of Ontario‘s biggest and most prestigious universities, has announced that they are enacting a COVID-19 plan that reads like it was made for September 2020 instead of 2022.

Under this plan, all students, staff and faculty will be required to submit proof that they’ve received at least three doses of an approved vaccine. They’ll also need to wear masks while in classrooms.

It’s a further reaching policy than the University of Toronto’s requirement for those living in dorms to have three shots, and it likely won’t be the last university policy that goes too far.

Dr. Kieran Moore, Ontario‘s chief medical officer of health, has moved in the direction of a risk-rate based approach on questions such as who should get vaccinated. He also doesn’t see the need for mandatory masking in educational settings, and says that he wouldn’t bring such measures back unless the health system was overwhelmed due to a rise in COVID patients.

That’s not the case in Ontario at the moment.

South of the border, the Centers for Disease Control under the Biden administration released relaxed COVID guidance on vaccinations, quarantine and screening people with no symptoms.

At Western, they are heading back towards mandatory vaccinations, masking and daily screening of symptom-free people.

It simply doesn’t make sense, especially when you consider most of the students at the school are young, healthy people who aren’t at risk for severe outcomes from COVID-19. Asked about telling young people to get boosters last month, Dr. Moore wouldn’t even say they should get them, just that they can but should take personal circumstances into account.

“It’s not a ‘should,’ it is absolutely a ‘may,’ depending on your personal circumstances,” Moore said. “You’d look at whether you have any underlying medical illness and or by your occupation are you getting exposed to anyone or in your personal life setting if your parent is undergoing chemotherapy? Absolutely.”

He also said that for many young, healthy people, the risk may not be worth the benefit of continuing to get boosters.

“We know there is a risk, a very small risk — one in 5,000 — that may get myocarditis for example, and you’d have to have that discussion on the risk benefit of a complication from the vaccine versus a benefit of decreased hospitalization for a young healthy person,” Moore said.

That discussion can’t happen for young, healthy students at Western or University of Toronto students who wish to live on campus. They may have been fully vaccinated with two shots, now they are being told that’s not good enough.

Infectious disease specialist Dr. Neil Rau questions the value of this policy.
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“To do it in a young, healthy population is really questionable. It’s the wrong intervention in the wrong place at the wrong time in the evolution of COVID,” Rau said.

He’s also worried about this policy, which doesn’t follow public health advice, being copied by other large institutions, to show that they are the most cautious. It’s a valid concern and one that the province may have to step in and take action on.

Universities are independent bodies, but the province does hand over billions to them each year, meaning the government has influence. Maybe it’s time for Premier Doug Ford or his minister for colleges and universities, Jill Dunlop, to start calling around and asking the schools to follow actual public health advice instead of enacting policies built on fear over science.

Ontario students have been through a lot over the past several years; they shouldn’t face needless restrictions in what should be a return to a normal school year.

[Glacier]

Vinay Prasad is one of the most credible people out there in my opinion. He is not anti-vax, and had been triple vaxxed (though the 3rd dose was only done because he could have jeopardized his track toward tenure without it). He's 39 and says that at his age it's not good to take Moderna especially because the risks are far greater than the benefits.

This graph is shocking, and keep in mind that the cases of miocarditis are far greater at 20 than they are at 40 so if they were to just look at teenagers, this graph would be far more shocking. Also note that this graph is showing miocarditis with the vax and no covid. If you've had the vax and covid, your chances of miocarditis are almost certainly higher still.

https://twitter.com/VPrasadMDMPH/status ... 5524357120

[SouthSardiswx]

Vinay Prasad is one of the most credible people out there in my opinion. He is not anti-vax, and had been triple vaxxed (though the 3rd dose was only done because he could have jeopardized his track toward tenure without it). He's 39 and says that at his age it's not good to take Moderna especially because the risks are far greater than the benefits.

This graph is shocking, and keep in mind that the cases of miocarditis are far greater at 20 than they are at 40 so if they were to just look at teenagers, this graph would be far more shocking. Also note that this graph is showing miocarditis with the vax and no covid. If you've had the vax and covid, your chances of miocarditis are almost certainly higher still.

https://twitter.com/VPrasadMDMPH/status ... 5524357120

Although it's probably selfish of myself l stopped paying attention to Covid just due to burnout and how it all played out through the media.

[AbbyJr]

Title: Latest COVID booster shots will be released before human testing is complete
Author: Allie Griffin
Date: August 28, 2022 8:54 PM
Source: https://nypost.com/2022/08/28/latest-co ... -complete/

The Food and Drug Administration is expected to approve new COVID-19 booster shots this week — before the vaccines are tested on humans, according to a new report by the Wall Street Journal.

The new boosters are similar to the COVID vaccines currently available in the US with minor modifications that protect recipients from the latest version of the Omicron variant.

Instead of waiting for data from testing in humans, the agency will use data from trials in mice — as well as the real-world evidence of the safety of currently available COVID vaccines and test results from earlier iterations of boosters targeting older strains — to evaluate the newest boosters, FDA Commissioner Dr. Robert Califf said.

“Real world evidence from the current mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, which have been administered to millions of individuals, show us that the vaccines are safe,” Califf said on Twitter. “As we know from prior experience, strain changes can be made without affecting safety.”

He added that modifying existing vaccines to include protection against different viral strains doesn’t require a change in ingredients and is a common practice of the FDA with flu vaccines.

“FDA has extensive experience with reviewing strain changes in vaccines, as is done with the annual flu vaccine,” Califf said.

Both Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech have submitted new COVID vaccine boosters to the agency for approval and the FDA hopes to roll out a booster campaign this fall.

However, some health experts are wary of the decision to release the shots without completed human trials.

In June, two experts penned an op-ed demanding that the FDA not rush through the rollout of the newest shots.

“I’m uncomfortable that we would move forward — that we would give millions or tens of millions of doses to people — based on mouse data,” one of the authors, Paul Offit, told the Journal.

Offit, an FDA adviser and director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, believes the comparison between flu shots and COVID-19 shots is not well grounded due to the differences in mutations and protection levels.

The FDA will not convene another meeting to gather input from advisers on the vaccine approvals as was done in earlier rollouts, either.

Califf said advisers already “overwhelming[ly]” voted to include an Omicron component in COVID-19 boosters at a meeting in June.

“The agency feels confident in the extensive discussion that was held in June,” he said.

COVID-19 vaccines now on the market are not as effective against newer strains of the virus, including the newest Omicron subvariant BA.5.

Pfizer and Moderna both said current data proves the newest shots are safe and effective, according to the Journal.

The newer versions are only ever so slightly changed to protect against new variants, according to several experts. Also, testing on the two companies’ earlier versions targeting earlier strains has proved successful and safe. One such shot has already been approved in the UK.

Moderna has already begun human trials on the newest subvariant-targeting vaccine and Pfizer is expected to begin such tests this month, but results will not be available before the vaccines are brought to the general public.

“If we waited for clinical-trial results, thank you very much, we’d get them in the spring. It takes time to do clinical trials,” William Schaffner, professor of medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, told the Journal. “This is just an updating of the previous vaccine that we used.”

[SouthSardiswx]

Title: Latest COVID booster shots will be released before human testing is complete
Author: Allie Griffin
Date: August 28, 2022 8:54 PM
Source: https://nypost.com/2022/08/28/latest-co ... -complete/

There's no way l would try something not thoroughly tested l was most apprehensive with the 2 vaxx's l recieved.
Only to find out the protection pretty much waned in no time at all.
I'm done with it like l said unless something life threatening comes along and l can guarantee there wil be if big pharma has their way.

[AbbyJr]

Title: LILLEY: Academics and medical experts seem to like hurling vitriol and abuse at Dr. Moore over relaxing COVID guidance
Author: Brian Lilley
Date: September 1st, 2022
Source: https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... d-guidance

Remember all the calls over the last few days to bring civility back to our public discourse? Remember the claims that the lack of civility, the coarseness of that public discourse was all due to angry conservatives?

Well forget about it, we now have Canada’s left-wing academics and medical experts acting in ways they criticized just days ago. Apparently, those calls for treating each other with respect don’t apply when you disagree with Ontario’s Chief Medical Officer on COVID policy.

The name calling and claims that Dr. Moore is going to kill people by changing public health guidelines is mind blowing.

Emmett Macfarlane, a political science professor at the University of Waterloo, took to Twitter during Dr. Moore’s Wednesday news conference to claim Moore was “PRO VIRUS” and call him a piece of….well, excrement but in a less polite way. The poli-sci prof also says that Moore “has no business in public office or anywhere near public health.”

Not exactly respectful dialogue now, is it?

Regina Bateson, an assistant professor at the University of Ottawa’s graduate school for public and international affairs, decided to claim Ontario is worse than the worst American states you can think of!

“I’m seeing people saying that Ontario has gone ‘full Florida’ or ‘totally Alabama’ re: COVID. No, folks, it’s actually worse. People there can still get PCR tests & many institutions follow CDC guidance for COVID+ ppl to isolate for 5 days,” Bateson tweeted.

In other areas, the CDC has further relaxed guidance, can we follow that or only guidance that is stricter than Ontario? These people are obsessed with COVID restrictions being imposed on you from their ivory towers.

Jacob Shelley, a law professor, blasted Moore as negligent and responsible for coming deaths.

“Dr. Moore is responsible for the preventable deaths & disease that follows from his negligence,” Shelley wrote.

“He shouldn’t be a CMOH. Hell, he shouldn’t be a Dr. Shameful. Any public health org/body, scholar, advocate or dr that doesn’t call out this has likewise abandoned public health.”

Now, I’m not going to say no one should question Dr. Moore’s decisions, I question doctors all the time, but I can tell you from experience that when I question a doctor about overly zealous COVID restrictions on Twitter, it’s called an attack on science. I’m quickly reminded, by people like Macfarlane, Shelley or their fellow travellers, that I’m not a medical doctor.

Seems that attacking doctors or science is just fine if the doctor being attacked is relaxing rather than increasing COVID restrictions.

Speaking of doctors, plenty of them were willing to claim Moore was wrong. Dr. David Fisman, long known for his COVID hysteria and incorrect projections of doom and gloom accused Moore of “malpractice.” Dr. Andrew Boozary called Moore’s actions an “abdication of responsibility.”

Of course, there are plenty of medical experts who believe that Ontario is on the right path under Moore, their voices aren’t yelling and screaming on Twitter though. Nor are they amplified quite as often in the media as those wanting ever increasing restrictions even when the evidence doesn’t support more or ongoing restrictions.

I don’t agree with everything Moore is doing, I don’t support all his recommendations but he doesn’t deserve this level of vitriol from academics and medical professionals who should know better.

[SouthSardiswx]

Title: LILLEY: Academics and medical experts seem to like hurling vitriol and abuse at Dr. Moore over relaxing COVID guidance
Author: Brian Lilley
Date: September 1st, 2022
Source: https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... d-guidance

According to Adrian Dix today it sounds like there going to be pushing for Vaxx's from now till fall for 18+.
No thanks what's next more mandates for those that don't comply if cases sky rocket.

[Abby_wx]

According to Adrian Dix today it sounds like there going to be pushing for Vaxx's from now till fall for 18+.
No thanks what's next more mandates for those that don't comply if cases sky rocket.

Yup, no thanks. 2 vaxxes is it for me unless a dangerous variant emerges then I will reevaluate.

[SouthSardiswx]

Yup, no thanks. 2 vaxxes is it for me unless a dangerous variant emerges then I will reevaluate.

I hope Dr B H isn't planning on a weekly update again, this is nothing more than the flu on steroids and unfortunately like the regular flu affects people differently get on with life man enough.

[Forrest Gump]

I hope Dr B H isn't planning on a weekly update again, this is nothing more than the flu on steroids and unfortunately like the regular flu affects people differently get on with life man enough.

Bonnie
Oh, pfizer, pfizer
You are my covid shot
And you got me wanting you

Pfizer
Oh, Bonnie, Bonnie
You are my covid girl
And you got me vaxxing too

[SouthSardiswx]

Bonnie
Oh, pfizer, pfizer
You are my covid shot
And you got me wanting you

Pfizer
Oh, Bonnie, Bonnie
You are my covid girl
And you got me vaxxing too

Good bubble gum hit from the Archies released in 1969 Gumpers. Was living down @ Kits beach at the time.

[Typeing3]

Bonnie
Oh, pfizer, pfizer
You are my covid shot
And you got me wanting you

Pfizer
Oh, Bonnie, Bonnie
You are my covid girl
And you got me vaxxing too

Classic!

https://youtu.be/JywK_5bT8z0

[AbbyJr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gS13_-1m1E

[SouthSardiswx]

Could this finally be the break through l'm skeptical but hopeful.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220 ... ibody.aspx