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End most of the lockdown restrictions and mandates. That seems to be what this protest is mostly about and that's the message I 100% support . Yeah there are definitely a few morons who should face the consequences of their despicable actions (which I would never condone) but the vast, vast majority have been completely peaceful. Check out all the live streams and other videos available for proof of this. Of course we will see the media and government focusing on the craziest fringe... no surprise there as that is what they usually will do for any side.
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PortKells wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:06 pm But...the convoy doesn't necessarily represent the vast majority of truckers.

Consistency is important, that's one reason why people are mad at the government. So Im trying to show you why some don't support this protest. It goes beyond mainstream media. That MSM argument has become a scapegoat, there's more reasons at play here.
Honestly from what I've seen, read, and heard I'd guess a majority of people who don't support this protest is primarily because they disagree with the main message (i.e end most lockdown restrictions, mandates, etc). The few fringe elements we've seen highlighted really only helps the government and msm narrative regarding the protest and detracts from what should be the only message. That's how I see it. Depending on one's point of view I can understand how they could see it completely differently.
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PortKells wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:06 pm But...the convoy doesn't necessarily represent the vast majority of truckers.

Consistency is important, that's one reason why people are mad at the government. So Im trying to show you why some don't support this protest. It goes beyond mainstream media. That MSM argument has become a scapegoat, there's more reasons at play here.
I agree that consistency is important. However, keep in mind that's it's also possible that the media is making it sound like the vast majority of truckers support the mandates when that may not be true. While there are definitely those who do support the mandates, there are also many, and myself included, who are getting fed up with all these divisive unconstitutional mandates and restrictions.
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100% agree, that is disgusting. We need more of this. Good to see at least some supporters of the protest calling the guy out. Lots of condemnation of these types is needed to ensure some semblance of credibility for the vast majority of protesters who have been peaceful and have a somewhat unified and coherent message but I'm afraid we may be past that point now, especially with the government and msm trying their best to scapegoat all in the same ilk.
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This is interesting. Hopefully we see more people try to get these folks as far away from the protest as possible, because again these types only destroy any credibility or destroy any potential empathy others may have with the grievances of the majority of protesters.
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Just to add. I also hope those who intimidated and stole from the soup kitchen are found and faced with adequate punishment for their actions. Seeing those reports earlier today was disgusting.
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It’s all so clear typeing isn’t it?! We have been locked up for to long time to change this peacefully!
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John wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:09 pm It’s all so clear typeing isn’t it?! We have been locked up for to long time to change this peacefully!
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Media sure is doing its very best to spin the protest as very violent and dangerous, just so disgusting it’s why you get wacko’s like Donald trump and Maxine bernier popular
I literally saw 1 confederate flag in the protest 1!
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https://theprovince.com/opinion/sabrina ... ecb427db7e?

I've quoted the part of the article I found interesting below. Make what you will of it but it seems like a general but pretty fair assessment of the entire situation. One thing of note though is as usual with protests/movements I'd say the more moderate "camp one" greatly outnumbers the borderline extreme "camp two" - probably like a 95-5 split or something along those numbers.
What’s happening right now, and how it is being exploited by politicians, is unequivocally bad and has the potential to be the start of something worse. Rather than address the heart of the beast and work towards de-escalation, both sides of the political spectrum are attempting to capitalize on said political theatre. Their target audiences are less the convoy protesters themselves, but instead the vast audiences watching at home.

The fiasco’s general population spectators generally fall into one of two camps. The first are Canadians with deep, often legitimate rage regarding pandemic failures, with no healthy outlet through which to express that anger. A lot of this comes down to democratic failings, including the inability of other political parties to come up with a viable alternative to Justin Trudeau and a first-past-the-post electoral system that fails to properly represent voters. When frustrated people have nothing to rally for, they turn to rallying against. Trudeau has become the “against.”

This is compounded by the Liberal party’s moral puritanism that seeks to paint critics on everything from pandemic to housing policy as bad/racist/anti-vaxx, which makes a lot of Canadians feel they can’t publicly express their true views without fear of ostracization or retaliation. Instead, a lot of anger stays pent up, festering and growing more toxic over time.

Which brings us to the second camp of at-home spectators: the ones feasting on schadenfreude, gobbling up the fringe, problematic, and just plain ridiculous aspects of the convoy to feel superior to their political opponents and validate their worldviews. Doing so makes them feel good in the way reading trashy celebrity gossip makes people feel good — except, in this case, the societal consequences are potentially much more severe.

Conservative politicians looking to benefit from the convoy’s political theatre are appealing to camp one, hoping to turn anger into votes. Meanwhile, Liberals seeking to capitalize on it are targeting camp two, aiming to justify their puritanical approach to politics and stave off any real competition for power. In the process, both risk egging on true radicals and pushing more Canadians to the fringes. It’s a no-win scenario and self-serving politics at the worst possible time.
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John wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:50 am Media sure is doing its very best to spin the protest as very violent and dangerous, just so disgusting it’s why you get wacko’s like Donald trump and Maxine bernier popular
I literally saw 1 confederate flag in the protest 1!
What about the nazi flag too John absolutely disgusting.
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SouthSardiswx wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:43 pm What about the nazi flag too John absolutely disgusting.
How many of those? Answer 1
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John wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:32 am How many of those? Answer 1
1 too many John. :thumbdown:
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SouthSardiswx wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:43 pm What about the nazi flag too John absolutely disgusting.
Yeah I agree - seeing a Confederate flag and a Nazi flag was appalling. There is definitely a few people out there who have used the protest as a ground to share their own despicable views or to deligitimize the vast, vast majority of the entire protest and its message.

There were rumours the guy carrying the Confederate flag could have been a provocateur/disturber which would not surprise me but if he wasn't then that is even more shameful. A few of the organizers were also trying to find out who the guy was carrying the Nazi flag but I'm not sure if they ended up identifying him.
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