December 2024 Forecasts And Discussions

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Re: December 2024 Forecasts And Discussions

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wetcoast91 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:28 am 12Z GFS brings back ridging in the LR. This winter is mirroring 2015-16 so far.
Except 2015-16 was an el nino year!
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Inversion layer lingering over Burrard Inlet and surrounding lowlands.
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It's called clown range for a reason.
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Michael1 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:44 am Except 2015-16 was an el nino year!
EPS at least shows a dynamic pattern setting up. The GFS is really boring.
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Rubus_Leucodermis wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:56 am Inversion layer lingering over Burrard Inlet and surrounding lowlands.

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From the current temp observations, looks like it's still persisting in PoCo, Pitt Meadows, Port Kells and Fort Langley as well.
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wetcoast91 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:28 am 12Z GFS brings back ridging in the LR. This winter is mirroring 2015-16 so far.
Seems more like 2013-14 or 2004-05 so far.
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wetcoast91 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:32 pm EPS at least shows a dynamic pattern setting up. The GFS is really boring.
Thankfully, the EPS is far more reliable than the GFS. :thumbup: :wave:
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Typeing3 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:40 pm Seems more like 2013-14 or 2004-05 so far.
Minus the backdoor arctic blast in the first week of December 2013. :thumbup:
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So all the prognostications earlier this fall meant nothing. The ENSO, PDO and SSTs don't affect our weather the way it was forecast? So if those atmospheric/ oceanographic mechanisms do not affect our weather, why do we think analogs are any better a predictor? It seems more like the computer models are no better than clever coin flips.
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Michael1 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:21 pm So all the prognostications earlier this fall meant nothing. The ENSO, PDO and SSTs don't affect our weather the way it was forecast? So if those atmospheric/ oceanographic mechanisms do not affect our weather, why do we think analogs are any better a predictor? It seems more like the computer models are no better than clever coin flips.
2004-05 and 2013-14 were among the analogues for this winter, IIRC. Both cool neutrals/weak Nina's.

Edit: 2005-06, not 2004-05.
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AbbyJr wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:30 pm Minus the backdoor arctic blast in the first week of December 2013. :thumbup:
Still plenty of time for a backdoor arctic blast to occur.
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Currently 3c and clear in east Coquitlam.

First time seeing the sky since Sunday, as the fog has (temporarily?) lifted.
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Typeing3 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:06 pm Currently 3c and clear in east Coquitlam.

First time seeing the sky since Sunday, as the fog has (temporarily?) lifted.
It was a lovely blue sky afternoon here in the big city. Now down to 2.6˚C. EC is going for a low of -2˚C last time I checked. Would be the coldest morning of the season so far.
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Weather101 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:18 pm:think:
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