January 2024 Forecasts and Discussions

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Re: January 2024 Forecasts and Discussions

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VanCitySouth wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:48 pm Yup. YVR temp has dropped from:
-4.3 with NW wind at 4:00
-4.9 with N wind at 5:00
-6.3 with E wind at 5:44 special observation
Definitely hitting negative double digits
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Storm wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:13 pm Don't know, it looks like one inch thick.
Need 4" to be safe to walk on. You could get by with a bit less but that's more risky.

Municipalities will not take off the "danger" signs these days until the ice is at least 6" thick.
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Monty wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:43 pm I can’t think of anything off the top of my head. Sucks we are in the sweet spot 3 days out. Hopefully it holds.

Possible deformation band approaching from the south with a continental cold front coming in from the north. Huge potential
Would be epic if we could pull this off. Would be a major region wide snowstorm. Unfortunately, there's always January 2011. :silent: :wave:

Did January 2011 fall apart 48hrs or 72hrs out?
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Storm wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:45 pm The crew down there thinks it's going South so there's that.
Of course they do. Will be some epic meltdowns if this doesn’t hit western Washington.
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Storm wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:25 pm Very fascinating pattern to see how it goes don't think I have ever seen this before, maybe Abby_wx can help. Also Euro trending in the right direction.
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I couldn't point to any specific example of that setup happening. Looks good though.
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Storm wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:25 pm Very fascinating pattern to see how it goes don't think I have ever seen this before, maybe Abby_wx can help. Also Euro trending in the right direction.
ecmwf_mslp_pcpn_nwus_fh57-90.gifecmwf_T850_nwus_fh84_trend.gif
A renewed shot of modified arctic air into the interior at the same time a system approaches from the SW. Timing is key for the difference between rain, snow, or more dry weather. At this point I'd rather see the models trend towards more suppression (i.e. the arctic air pushes south quicker than the undercutting system). Might seem like a drier outcome but would be colder. Otherwise it could be a quick transition from flurries to ZR and mild rain.
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AbbyJr wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:53 pm Would be epic if we could pull this off. Would be a major region wide snowstorm. Unfortunately, there's always January 2011. :silent: :wave:

Did January 2011 fall apart 48hrs or 72hrs out?
It fell apart on the gfs in the 48-72hr range. I don’t recall the euro ever showing the epic solutions that the gfs was pumping out.
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Re: January 2024 Forecasts and Discussions

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VanCitySouth wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:48 pm Yup. YVR temp has dropped from:
-4.3 with NW wind at 4:00
-4.9 with N wind at 5:00
-6.3 with E wind at 5:44 special observation
And now -7.0 at 6:00, which is 0.7C in only 16 minutes. That outflow worked like a charm.
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If I recall correctly...one of our Dec 2008 systems phased with an arctic front.
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wetcoast91 wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:08 pm If I recall correctly...one of our Dec 2008 systems phased with an arctic front.
December 25? That's is what I thought. Everyone thought we will warm up. Then finally an other system rolled in the 27 if I am correct, started with snow and then finally transition to rain.
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No charging of electric vehicles. Alberta electrical shutdown.
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VanCitySouth wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:07 pm And now -7.0 at 6:00, which is 0.7C in only 16 minutes. That outflow worked like a charm.
YVR is famous for dropping fast then staying stuck lol
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Radar wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:10 pm No charging of electric vehicles. Alberta electrical shutdown.
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Storm wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:09 pm December 25? That's is what I thought. Everyone thought we will warm up. Then finally an other system rolled in the 27 if I am correct, started with snow and then finally transition to rain.
2008 was wild, there were so many snowstorms in a row. The two biggies were on the 21st/22nd, then the 24th, so these two were probably the ones which phased together. The 26th/27th one was the one that wound up finally turning to rain. The cold then somehow made another comeback for several more marginal snowfalls in the first week of January.
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